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SpeakersSmith Mr Greg; Deputy-Speaker (Mr Thomas George); Amery Mr Richard
BusinessBusiness of the House, Division, Suspension of Orders



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    Suspension of Standing and Sessional Orders: Members' Speaking Time

        Mr GREG SMITH (Epping—Attorney General, and Minister for Justice) [4.31 p.m.]: I move:

        That standing and sessional orders be suspended to restore the speaking time, lost during the quorum call, of the member for Coffs Harbour.
    The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! The Attorney General has moved a motion to suspend standing and sessional orders. The mover has five minutes to speak to the motion.
      Mr Chris Hartcher: Just put the motion.
        The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! Would the Attorney General like to speak to the motion?
          Mr GREG SMITH: Yes. The calling of a quorum interrupted a speech of one of the last speakers on this bill today, who was making good progress in the interest of the State in his speech. I have moved for the suspension so that subsequently I can move that the speaking time of the member for Coffs Harbour be reinstated to where it was before the interruption.
            Mr RICHARD AMERY (Mount Druitt) [4.32 p.m.]: The Opposition opposes the motion.
              The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! The Opposition is opposing the suspension of standing and sessional orders?
                Mr RICHARD AMERY: Yes.
                  The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! It is not opposing the motion.
                    Mr RICHARD AMERY: Consistently through this debate—
                      The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! Members of the Government, especially the member for Kiama, will remain silent and allow the member for Mount Druitt to make his case.
                        Mr RICHARD AMERY: Government members have consistently spoken outside the bill. They have raised issues which Labor members have not done. We have not raised—

                        Mr Chris Hartcher: Point of order: The standing orders allow a reply as to whether standing orders should be suspended, which you have properly acceded to. What the member for Mount Druitt is doing is arguing the merits of the preceding debate, which is not relevant to the issue of whether further time should be granted to the member who was previously speaking. The remarks of the member for Mount Druitt need to be relevant.
                          The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! I have heard enough on the point of order. The member for Mount Druitt has the call.

                          Mr RICHARD AMERY: The issue about the quorum being called, a practice used by the present Government when in opposition—

                          Mr Gareth Ward: You have to be kidding. Point of order—

                          Ms Cherie Burton: You weren't even here.

                          Mr Ryan Park: Hear! Hear!

                          The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! The member for Kiama will resume his seat. The member for Keira will be removed from the Chamber if he continues with that type of behaviour.

                          Mr Gareth Ward: Point of order—

                          Mr RICHARD AMERY: Despite the Government having a substantial majority, we never reinstated the time—maybe once in 16 years. These suspensions of standing orders are circumventing the standing orders of this place that require the Government to have a quorum in the Chamber when its members are speaking. Having a suspension of standing orders after each time a quorum is called I believe is circumventing the standing orders of this place and is something which former governments, Labor and Coalition, never did or did very rarely. This is now a common practice. I believe this suspension of standing orders should be rejected.
                            The DEPUTY-SPEAKER (Mr Thomas George): Order! The Attorney General is entitled to a response. All of a sudden everyone thinks he or she is the Speaker. The Attorney General will be heard in silence.

                            Mr GREG SMITH (Epping—Attorney General, and Minister for Justice) [4.34 p.m.], in reply: The member for Mount Druitt has a long memory, having been here a long time. I think that today there was a deliberate intent to stop the articulation by the member for Coffs Harbour of this important motion. My motion should be agreed to.

                            Question—That the motion be agreed to—put.
                              The House divided.
                              Ayes, 65
                              Mr Anderson
                              Mr Annesley
                              Mr Aplin
                              Mr Ayres
                              Mr Baird
                              Mr Barilaro
                              Mr Baumann
                              Ms Berejiklian
                              Mr Bromhead
                              Mr Brookes
                              Mr Cansdell
                              Mr Conolly
                              Mr Constance
                              Mr Cornwell
                              Mr Coure
                              Mrs Davies
                              Mr Dominello
                              Mr Doyle
                              Mr Edwards
                              Mr Elliott
                              Mr Evans
                              Mr Flowers
                              Mr Fraser
                              Mr Gee
                              Ms Gibbons
                              Ms Goward
                              Mr Grant
                              Mr Hartcher
                              Mr Hazzard
                              Mr Holstein
                              Mr Humphries
                              Mr Issa
                              Mr Kean
                              Dr Lee
                              Ms Moore
                              Mr Notley-Smith
                              Mr O'Dea
                              Mr Owen
                              Mr Page
                              Mr Parker
                              Ms Parker
                              Mr Patterson
                              Mr Perrottet
                              Mr Piccoli
                              Mr Piper
                              Mr Provest
                              Mr Roberts
                              Mr Rowell
                              Mrs Sage
                              Mr Sidoti
                              Mrs Skinner
                              Mr Smith
                              Mr Souris
                              Mr Speakman
                              Mr Spence
                              Mr Stokes
                              Mr Toole
                              Mr Torbay
                              Ms Upton
                              Mr Ward
                              Mr Webber
                              Mr R. C. Williams
                              Mrs Williams
                              Tellers,
                              Mr Maguire
                              Mr J. D. Williams

                              Noes, 19
                              Mr Barr
                              Ms Burney
                              Ms Burton
                              Mr Furolo
                              Ms Hay
                              Ms Hornery
                              Ms Keneally
                              Mr Lalich
                              Mr Lynch
                              Dr McDonald
                              Ms Mihailuk
                              Mrs Perry
                              Mr Rees
                              Mr Robertson
                              Ms Tebbutt
                              Ms Watson
                              Mr Zangari

                              Tellers,
                              Mr Amery
                              Mr Park
                              Question resolved in the affirmative.

                              Motion agreed to.