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Consideration of Urgent Motions

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Subjects -  Films; Trade; Television; Treaty; Hospitals: Campbelltown Hospital; Hospitals: Camden Hospital; Health Administration; Nurses; Whistleblowers; Members of Parliament: Staff; Wages and Salaries
Speakers - Carr Mr Bob; Brogden Mr John; Speaker
Business - Consideration of Urgent Motion, Division, Motion
Commentary - Procedural debate to determine precedence Jennifer Collins


    CONSIDERATION OF URGENT MOTIONS
Page: 5589


    Film and Television Industry Free Trade Agreement

    Mr BOB CARR (Maroubra—Premier, Minister for the Arts, and Minister for Citizenship) [3.41 p.m.]: My motion is urgent because Australian and United States of America negotiators are rushing to complete the free trade agreement by the end of January and there is little time left to protect Australian culture.

    Former Macarthur Health Service Chief Executive Officer Ms Jennifer Collins

    Mr JOHN BROGDEN (Pittwater—Leader of the Opposition) [3.42 p.m.]: My motion is urgent. The Government continues to make it clear, through its estimates committee hearings and through the ramblings of its former Minister, its current Minister, the director-general, and Jennifer Collins, who came out of hiding and fronted a parliamentary committee yesterday, that this is a sordid and dirty little affair. Clearly the Premier, the Hon. Bob Carr, is happy to spend $204,000 on his chief of staff; $178,000 on Walt Secord; $158,000 or more on Amanda Lampe; $3.2 million of taxpayers' funds on Rehame Australia media monitoring, a service that is performed on a regular basis; and $800,000 worth of funds for 9.5 staff to perform media monitoring in his office—yet whistleblower nurses in Camden and Campbelltown hospitals have not been paid for months.

    The Premier is happy to look after his Labor mates like Jennifer Collins and to transfer her from Camden and Campbelltown hospitals into the Central Area Health Service on a $165,000-a-year non-senior executive service [SES] job—a look-alike SES job, as Dr Horvath told the estimates committee last week. The Premier is happy to look after Jennifer Collins, Walt Secord, and Rehame, and he is prepared to pay millions of dollars to look after the Labor organisation—

    Mr Alan Ashton: Point of order: The Leader of the Opposition has rattled off a lot of names but he has not once mentioned the word "urgency". He should be directed to state why his motion is more urgent than the motion of the Premier.

    Mr SPEAKER: Order! I have not heard sufficient from the Leader of the Opposition to rule on the point of order. The honourable member for East Hills will resume his seat.

    Mr JOHN BROGDEN: My motion it is urgent because only yesterday the Parliament heard from Jennifer Collins, a former Australian Labor Party member who for a long time has been cleaning up the mess that was left by the former health Minister, the Hon. Craig Knowles, on the Campbelltown and Camden hospitals issue. Only yesterday did Jennifer Collins front up at the estimates committee hearing and only then did we establish the full level of fraud and deceit in relation to this matter. In May 2003 NSW Health appointed Vern Dalton as mediator for whistleblower nurses, yet it took until 20 November 2003 to advise them—

    Mr Alan Ashton: Point of order: I repeat my earlier point of order. The Leader of the Opposition is not establishing why his motion is urgent. He is debating the issue.

    Mr SPEAKER: Order! I remind the Leader of the Opposition that he must establish why his motion should have priority over the motion of the Premier.

    Mr JOHN BROGDEN: This motion is urgent. This is the first opportunity that we have had in a week to discuss this matter, which is urgent because of further ongoing revelations. Whistleblower nurses in the Macarthur Area Health Service are not being paid, but Jennifer Collins is being paid $165,000. Whistleblower nurses are not being paid but Walt Secord, the Premier's spin doctor, is getting $180,000 a year. Whistleblower nurses are not being paid, but the Premier's chief of staff is getting $204,000. What is the view of Government backbench members about the fact that the Premier's chief of staff is being paid twice as much as they are being paid?

    Mr Alan Ashton: Point of order: The Leader of the Opposition has rattled off what he alleges are the salaries being paid to staff of the Premier. That has nothing to do with this motion. The figures to which he referred cannot be substantiated. He should be asked to state why he believes his motion is more urgent than the motion of the Premier.

    Mr SPEAKER: Order! I again remind the Leader of the Opposition that he must establish why his motion should have priority. He should not debate the substance of the motion.

    Mr JOHN BROGDEN: This motion is urgent because this is the first opportunity we have had to discuss and debate this matter since further and serious revelations last week. We need to discuss the clear relationship between Jennifer Collins, the Labor mate who is being looked after, and Amanda Adrian, the Health Care Complaints Commissioner. We established last week that they are work colleagues who worked together in the Department of Health, and that they socialised together—yet under the Labor Party the Health Care Complaints Commissioner is to investigate Jennifer Collins. It appears as though former Australian Labor Party members are looked after. We must urgently debate this grubby and corrupt matter. Time and again the Premier has refused to answer questions about this issue. He is standing by an incompetent and corrupt Health Care Complaints Commission—the body that should be properly investigating this matter. [Time expired.]

    Question—That the motion for urgent consideration of the honourable member for Maroubra be agreed to—put.

    The House divided.
    Ayes, 52
    Ms Allan
    Mr Amery
    Ms Andrews
    Mr Bartlett
    Ms Beamer
    Mr Black
    Mr Brown
    Miss Burton
    Mr Campbell
    Mr Carr
    Mr Collier
    Mr Corrigan
    Mr Crittenden
    Ms D'Amore
    Mr Debus
    Mr Gaudry
    Mr Gibson
    Mr Greene
    Ms Hay
    Mr Hickey
    Mr Hunter
    Mr Iemma
    Ms Judge
    Ms Keneally
    Mr Knowles
    Mr Lynch
    Mr McBride
    Mr McLeay
    Ms Meagher
    Ms Megarrity
    Mr Mills
    Mr Morris
    Mr Newell
    Ms Nori
    Mr Orkopoulos
    Mrs Paluzzano
    Mr Pearce
    Mrs Perry
    Mr Price
    Dr Refshauge
    Ms Saliba
    Mr Sartor
    Mr Scully
    Mr Shearan
    Mr Stewart
    Mr Tripodi
    Mr Watkins
    Mr West
    Mr Whan
    Mr Yeadon

    Tellers,
    Mr Ashton
    Mr Martin

    Noes, 36
    Mr Aplin
    Mr Armstrong
    Mr Barr
    Ms Berejiklian
    Mr Brogden
    Mr Cansdell
    Mr Constance
    Mr Debnam
    Mr Draper
    Mr Fraser
    Mrs Hancock
    Mr Hazzard
    Mr Kerr
    Ms Hodgkinson
    Mrs Hopwood
    Mr Humpherson
    Mr Kerr
    Mr McGrane
    Mr Merton
    Ms Moore
    Mr Oakeshott
    Mr Page
    Mr Piccoli
    Mr Pringle
    Mr Richardson
    Mr Roberts
    Ms Seaton
    Mrs Skinner
    Mr Slack-Smith
    Mr Souris
    Mr Stoner
    Mr Tink
    Mr Torbay
    Mr J. H. Turner
    Mr R. W. Turner

    Tellers,
    Mr George
    Mr Maguire
    Pair

    Ms Burney
    Mr Hartcher

    Question resolved in the affirmative.


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